The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) has been stood down in a clear sign that the Government believes the Covid crisis is over. The Telegraph has more.
Although the group “stands ready if required” it will no longer meet regularly, the first time it has halted its ongoing response since January 2020.
The decision was taken after the Government acknowledged that Britain has entered a new phase of its response, and follows the lifting of all remaining legal restrictions in England as part of Downing Street’s Living With Covid plan.
The devolved nations have their own scientific advisory groups and are emerging from the epidemic on slightly different timelines.
The Telegraph understands that the Government will continue to receive Covid advice from other expert bodies, such as the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), as well as from Sir Patrick Vallance, the Chief Scientific Advisor and Sir Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer.
Professor Carl Heneghan, Director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford said:
The standing down of SAGE signifies the end of the pandemic in the U.K. This is a remarkable turnabout of events given that just before Christmas, SAGE advisors were warning infections could hit two million per day and were pushing for further restrictions. The Government will need to review whether SAGE is fit for purpose when it comes to pandemics. Particularly given its lack of clinical input and its overreliance on modelling – which we now know is no more than ‘guesswork’ – and its tendency to fixate on a particular set of assumptions.
In mid-December, SAGE models predicted hospitalisations could peak between 3,000 and 10,000 a day and deaths at between 600 and 6,000 a day, and the advisers said the Government should reintroduce lockdown restrictions “equivalent to those in place after step 2 or step 1 of the roadmap in England”.
However, the Government took advice elsewhere and declined. Deaths peaked at 306 on January 21st, while daily admissions never rose beyond 2,615.
Good to see the back of those guys. One more tick on the ‘pandemic over’ checklist. Next time we’ll need better advisers, and that will mean changing the person who picks them. We can’t afford to face another pandemic with Witless and Unbalanced heading up the advisory team. There needs to be change at the top.
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”Stands ready if required…” I bet they do. On a nice fat retainer too, probably.
If there is another ”emergency” then it should be a completely different set of ”experts” who really ARE experts in whatever field is appropriate. Not this bunch of self-serving behavioural psychopaths who’ve do nothing but harm in many ways.
All this means is that Johnson & co. believe that they have enough people jabbed, and that the next part of the plan can be implemented.
This will be the signing of the WHO ‘global pandemic response’ treaty – w/o debate, and the cover of Ukraine issues.
The great panic appears to be over until the next time. The objective has been achieved. A population cowed by Government directives and relentless propaganda from formerly trustworthy sources. Our lives are permanently transformed and not for the better. Non-productive bureaucrats of all descriptions are the cats that got the cream ( all of it) with society’s doers put firmly in their place. Those responsible for creating this new normal paradise for themselves can not be allowed to get away with it. Every effort should be made to explain to people what was done to them in the name of health security. Even for those who emerged as winners, it is important to keep reminding them of the cost of their victory and what has been lost. As for our Prime Minister’s use of historical metaphors, no Freedom day does not equate to VE Day. Churchill would never have sacrificed freedom and liberty on such flimsy pretexts as you and your cronies did Mr Johnson. You should remember that.
Covid is over. The new fear is the war in Ukraine. The Establishment is starting to get worried as their Great Reset is coming off the rails so it looks like the new plan is to destroy the world physically. My guess is that it is becoming urgent as come November and the US mid terms The Establishment is going to be so badly kicked out in the US that it will be game over.
Sorry chas but it is hard to see covid as anything other than “Part 1” of a plan with many parts.
Covid “ended” all around the world at the same time, co-incidentally as the WEF call went out for the start of “Part 2” which is the “war in Ukraine” (duration and outcome as yet unknown but likely to do a lot more of the damage they seek) “Part 3” is likely to flow from the cumulative effects of both Parts 1 and 2 ie inflation, cost of living crisis and the impoverishment of a great enough number of people that they cry out for their governments to “rescue them” in the form of Universal Basic Income (UBI)
UBI was discussed last night on GB News. So, it has moved from the conspiracy theorist zone of the internet to the TV screen. I almost fell off my sofa. Their poll showed approx 72% opposed to it. That is fine when it is theoretical but when the inflation and cost of living really begin to hit hard that opposition might deteriorate and turn into support.
I didn’t follow the whole item as I was, TBH, a bit distressed to… Read more »
They should not be stood down they should be stood up and held accountable. There was no science and no medical advise given it was pure utter fearmongering, with the purpose to negate a 10 year trial period for a new style gene therapy. Criminal behaviour condoned by the government . Unforgivable.
The problem with it all was that there was NO-ONE, literally NO-ONE, considering and advising on the economic, educational, social and long-term health aspects, both physiological and psychological, of the disastrous lockdown and masking policies. It must NEVER be allowed to happen again.
Over. Not quite yet for me. Not while anyone in government is even looking in the direction on these people.
Also we must NEVER NEVER NEVER forget the terrible damage these people have wrought on our country and populace.
Theres a long way to go to repair the mental damage and mass phsycosis a lot of people are still suffering from.
Never mind anything else.
Good riddance to bad rubbish
An enquiry into the damage caused to society and individuals caused by SAGE should be instituted. The conflict of interests and errors need to be exposed and liability determined.Never again can we permit individuals to determine “the science “ and inflict harm based on guesswork. They need to be held to account!
“Next time we’ll need better advisers, and that will mean changing who picks them. We can’t afford to face another pandemic with Witless and Unbalanced heading up the advisory team. There needs to be change at the top.”D
Who was the saboteur that selected these idiots? Sedwill?
About bloody time. Hopefully NEVER to be resurrected
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Unlikely Carl is going to be offered a post, unfortunately.
Shot down would have been better.
Susan Michie will spend the weekend thinking up vital advice on UK’s response to Ukraine events.
Getting everyone to wear face nappies forever should do it!
How different is sending vulnerable people to work, on crowded public transport, wearing a dangerously useless face ‘covering’ from giving guns to untrained civilians of any age when they will be facing trained soldiers?
Having first spoken to her handlers in Moscow no doubt
There’s a very large carpet with ‘Ukraine’ written on it, and Johnson and his Reset Gang have a large broom …
SAGE “stand ready if required” – haha. They’re a group of amoral careerist “professionals” who sat on a government committee for a short time. They’re not a f***ing military unit.
Perhaps they will come again in England’s time of greatest need, like King Arthur?
In other news, say what you like about Vladimir Putin, but at least he’s banned Facebook.
Astute observers will note that the Russian ambassador in London isn’t getting invited onto British TV or quoted in British newspapers. Here are two interesting questions:
1) For how long will you be able to access the Russian government news agency’s website TASS.com (or RT.com), through whatever means you currently access the internet?
2) For how long will you be allowed to send or post links to pages at TASS.com (or RT.com) to people you know, using whatever means you currently use to send or post links?
Just as Facebook can stop people using its equipment to send each other links to RT.com webpages, Google can stop allowing people to do the same using their Gmail accounts. (Sure, only an idiot uses a Gmail account in the first place, but there are a lot of idiots in this world.) As… Read more »
Like Spy-and-Snitch, like the vaxpässen system, the SAGE cabal remains in existence, and ready to spring into action and control every aspect of our lives again in response to COOFS-22, the Climate Catastrophe, or just in the name of Social Equity.
All that’s changing is that we are being told to stop talking about it, and to pretend that it’s all gone away.
The sadness of it all is the profanity and abuse heaped upon those saying ‘hang on, let’s be sensible’. The signatories to the Great Barrington Declaration. Let’s applaud them.
As the subject is SAGE, it’s time to remind everyone that Billy Hunt (anyone know where he lives? – Manchester accent?) thinks one of their members is the “saviour of all civilisation”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE
That song must have been sarcastic, surely??
Why anyone would listen too a bunch of lunatics who all look like Child abusers is beyond me , Sage are just absolutely vile
I will not forgive or forget what they have done till this day people still believe you can be asymptotic and pass Covid on with no symptomsand I also cannot believe Sage still seem to be there they got everything wrong yet if they ran a restaurant they would be gone sacked but they stay regardless of the mass damage they have done to society no one will ever say it
but society has gone too many people are brainwashed, and believe the narrative too many wear masks and clapped for the NHS and live in a nice big house with two children and a big garden will be jabbed to go on holiday, middle class people well very middle class in some terms too many will do as they are told .
that is why state education is indoctrination now not too question authority .
Here they all are!
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response-membership/list-of-participants-of-sage-and-related-sub-groups
If the ‘covid crisis’ is over, why is it so difficult for me to travel abroad and why do I have to wear a mask on the aircraft?
Why do I keep getting text messages and letters telling me to come and have my 3rd vaccine?
Why do supermarkets, etc, still have screens up, traffic lights on the doors and mask and social distancing instructions up?
Why does my gp have a long list of instructions you have to follow before you can enter the building?
In my opinion, it’s all in abeyance. It will be back in some form or another – they are just trying to work out how they can mould the current restrictions into net zero necessities, or even perhaps another made up illness to keep us under the thumb. I do not trust the government one little bit. Stay sharp everyone.
I’d sue the bastards if they’re sending you endless texts. It breaches data protection legislation. Beyond a certain point it would be harassment. That’s a civil or criminal offence too.
Doubt you’ll get anywhere. I went as far as the data protection complaints procedure with NHS England over clotshot harassment. When my complaint was rejected (which came as a massive surprise, obviously), I put in a complaint to the ICO and received an acknowledgement, Since then (many months on), nothing. Again, this was a massive surprise.
The basic argument they made was that because of the data processing reason they were using (public health) they aren’t legally obliged to provide an opt out. My counter argument is that while this is true, there still has to be an element of reasonableness, and repeatedly sending letters and texts despite being repeatedly asked to stop goes well beyond what is reasonable, given that being clotshotted is not a legal obligation and they therefore cannot justify repeated harassment like this. I also contacted the police speculatively to ask whether this is something they would be able to look into (potential harassment or one of the communications offences) – got a response saying yes potentially if I wanted to send details. I didn’t bother in the end because NHS England seemed to have backed off at that point.
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2 things occur to me.
I saw a video doing the rounds at Christmas. It was of Leo Varadker [Irish deputy PM] at the podium telling a room full of journos how it was all going to pan out. He said, with a smirk, that lockdowns over winter were going to be a ‘thing’ for the foreseeable future [he meant years] and that there would be “unlocking” in the summer. I think he actually said words like “we will let people out” in reference to the spring/summer period. Tells me where this is headed.
SAGE should not be stood down. SAGE should be lined up against a wall and shot.
… in Minecraft.
Right get the duckin lot of them in court for crimes against humanity.
BTW, thanks to The Daily Skeptic and its brave and smart contributors for highlighting so many of the findings and issues that probably helped lead to the end of this Adviser Group and a change in policy.
See? Dissent matters and is kind of important … Which is no doubt why dissent is now being criminalized and free speech attacked and abolished. Sigh.
Good point. If everyone in the country had knuckled under without a whimper and stayed in thrall to this bunch, does anyone have any doubt that they would have remained ensconced in place, and no doubt piling on an endless stream of “recommendations” to keep us under their thumbs where they think we all belong?
So what comes next?
No prizes for your prediction.
So basically two winters and then went into decline, just like the Spanish flu and all the other pandemics.
It will probably be back in next year’s “cold and flu season.” It’s so obvious this is a seasonal disease/virus. Of course next year they will probably do away with testing and/or reduce the PCR cycle threshold number to 22.
Professor Carl Heneghan says it all.
Whitty and Vallance aka “the Chuckle brothers” can go and perform their miserablist act elsewhere. No doubt it made them feel terribly important but most of us got their number and sussed their association with Big Pharma.
Bye boys, stay safe – not. Take a long walk on a short pier, preferably with the overgrown computer nerd Prof. Pantsdown and his German floosie.
“Professor Neil Ferguson’s married lover declared she was enjoying home-schooling her children and spending more time with her husband while secretly leaving their £1.9million home for liaisons with the eminent scientist, MailOnline can reveal today.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293057/How-Neil-Fergusons-married-lover-enjoys-perfect-family-life.html
Two slags
*Insert profanity and abuse of your choice here*
I’m wondering when they will be stood up…against a wall.